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and the democrat's upper hand. >>> mitch mcconnell gets ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce in the country. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he e went to a pennsylvania toy factory to focus on the people who will be hurt if the tax rate extensions are not passed for the 98% of americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here. your taxes will go up on january 1st. i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> president obama has
voucher rising of medicare, you have a return to the ryan budget, which priorities are not priorities that i think the american people share. >> rates, can there be a deal done with the rates not going up? >> no. i'm an appropriator for a long time in the congress. we used to have an expression. it's not the price. it's the money. this is not to be punitive on the people who make over $250,000. it's just to be fair to the entire country. you need that additional revenue in order to reduce the deficit and continue to make investments in growth. >> if speaker boehner says that, you know, we're not going to move on the rates, where are we? >> i hope that's just a bargaining position. but the fact is we have talked about it two step. do a down payment on cuts, on investments and on revenue this year and then in the next year, take the time to go over what we would do with real revenue reform. you can't do it in a matter of weeks right now. >> through this whole process, you want the rates to go up. been very clear on that. medicare age stays the same. and the the benefits don't change. ho
? they attack him. for the entire campaign all we heard about was how obama wanted to cut medicare. so which is it? i it he cut too much or he doesn't cut anything? and where is there offer? if they say they are the party of cutting spending stop talking about the democrats, make an offer. >> mitch mcconnell is out there every single day saying these are the entitlement changes that i think make sense and would get us to a deal. raising the retirement age, dealing with change the inflation formula so the programs aren't spending so much out over time. if president obama is interested in reforming entitlements which he says he is but he never specifies what it would be. all he has to do is call up mitch mcconnell and say i think these are good ideas, let's sit down and they would happen. republicans would take those immediately. >> that's how you think republicans should lead, they should wait for a call from the president? not go on tv but make an actual offer? >> specific changes on entitlements. if the president is in favor of changing entitlements, all he has to do is say i agree these ar
programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious because they counted the previous budget you have another trillion plus in cuts. that according to politico is the deal, steve murphy is a former campaign manager for dick gephardt and in d.c. today. from the democratic of view anything i just say or just said sound unreasonable? >> i don't think it sounds reasonable except i don't think it is enough. i don't think either party is being realistic about the enormity of the debt and deficit issue. what you just described is a very easy deal. it is sitting on the table, most of it is automatic. of the deal isn't reached in any case which is going to prompt something getting worked out but we need to cut about more than that. we are spending 23% of our gdpp federal government is, in one fashion or another and taking in 18% and that is not going to change all that much with the outlines of this deal. the democrats are not realistic about how much has to be cut and republicans are not realisti
by republican senator bob corker of tennessee, an idea we should raise the eligibility age for medicare. that is a wildly unpopular idea. more people oppose than support that idea by a 37% margin. it is more unpopular among republicans than the general public. republicans have not convinced their own voters let alone the rest of the country. they have not convinced their own voters on what they are trying to get in this big washington negotiation that is underway. republicans do not want the president out in the country talking to the people of the country about his ideas, which the country likes and about their ideas, which broadly speaking, the country hates. republicans do not want the president urging the american people to get involved on this, to call their member of congress, to invade their facebook pages and their twitter feeds. this is not a new strategy for president obama. this is the latest in a long line of efforts on the part of the obama white house to organize americans, to bring a grassroots campaign style efforts to bear on a policy debate. this not the first time the
medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> good morning, from new york. i'm chris hayes. a draft of egypt's new constitution will be delivered to president mohamed morsi today. private first class bradley manning accused of leaking classified documents to wikileaks will return to court in fort meade maryland. right now i'm joined by richard a renberg. allen frumin who retired as parliamentarian of the u.s. senate last year. this is his first interview since then. akil amar and sterling professor of law at yale law school. and msnbc contributor, victoria defrancesco soto. great to have you all here. all right. if president obama wants to get anything done in his second term, democrats in the senate will have to overcome one major obstacle, the filibuster. since democrats took control of both chambers of congress in 2007, republicans have used the filibuster as a bludgeon against them to pass basic legislation. the senate bills that actually passed has dropped from just over 25% to a record low of 2.8% this year. the rate held steady at 10% through the cli
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medicare and other health problems and 250 billion comes from elsewhere. then we draw down wars in iraq and afghanistan, shaving another trillion off of the deficit. that gets us to around 4 trillion in deficit over the next ten years. we are almost at 5 trillion in deficit reduction. as they sign the game shows, that's not all. the white house is also asking for about 200 billion in stimulus. according to the weekly standard, when senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saw the proposal, he quote, burst into laughter. he literally lol 'd. >> i've been very guarded in what i wanted to say. i didn't want it make it harder for me it say or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here, the calls for $1.6 trillion of new taxes, calls for not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have extra spending, that's actually greater than the amount
. they might want to raise the cap on payments toward medicare when you're working years. something that would make the medicare prom more secure financially which would appeal to the progressives and people with big city and working class constituencies. >> what about the age for when you qualify for social security? >> well, i wouldn't touch that. that's too high. you don't do that over christmas rush. you know, you do that over a long period of time and you make a very serious concession to people who have really heavy lifting jobs. it's different if you're working in a law firm and they keep you around for a few more years rather than you're driving a semi ray cross the country on route 70 or 80 all night long. you may not want a guy 730 years o -- 70 years old or a woman driving that truck. i really think you have to find something not -- i think the word hardship, not handicap, whether it be a hardship type role that are recognized as such where you get to retire sooner. i think we can deal with that over time but it takes more finesse. >> george will in his column today writes this, wit
a plan for medicare. medicare advantage. that is exactly the same as obama care is for people under the age of 65. and so i'm waiting for paul ryan to tell me the difference between his medicare advantage plan and the obama health care exchanges. >> i think we can settle this 2016 thing right now. >> what are you, kidding? >> i stopped making predictions like six seconds ago. we're great when we talk about things that happened in the past or things happening now. we're really stupid. >> joe klein gets the last very cautious word. thank you very much for joining me. from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news from the nation's capital. house democrats are turning the screws on house speaker bain. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal is still out of balance. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has a plan to get around the speaker. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radic
billion out of medicare in this initial round. to be named later. they are sort of determined not to fall for that again. megyn: it is exactly what happened to ronald reagan. he agreed to a tax hike for spending cuts or come later. he said that the biggest regret of his presidency is that he got the tax hike and he never got the spending cuts. we will see. there is a lot of pressure on the sides, especially on the gop side. tom bevan, thank you so much you think you. megyn: what do you think? some say it is the opening offer. but it's not. we only have 3.5 weeks ago. it is time to get down to business on capitol hill, who is to blame for the situation we are on on capitol hill? balmy on twitter. back in january 2000 and 1, our national debt stood at $5.7 trillion when president bush took office. it seems paltry now. when he left office, the debt was $10.6 trillion. as of this week, $16.3 trillion. the next debt ceiling limit is only about $100 billion away. that is the number we could reach in the next few weeks. democrats are suggesting that that be dealt with in this difficult negotiati
. we've got to tackle and make the difficult choices. >> what about his $400 billion in medicare? is your problem with it that it's not specified? do you want to see a more specific laundry list or do you have to produce a laundry list before he's going to come up with his? is this a giant game of chicken. >> >> that's what's unfortunate. that's what i think the parties should be sitting at a table, speaker boehner is on the absolute right track, shown a willingness to be able to talk about things that we haven't been able to talk about before and they need to sit down and hash this out. there's nothing like a deadline to drive these types of decisions. i've said what should happen is it should be happening right now, what i think will happen is it will happen probably at the end of the year before the deadline. deadlines drive action. but yeah, i want to get to the specificity that we all need. >> congressman, thank you very much. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, andrea. >> up next, we'll talk to judy gross, the wife of an american contractor jailed in cuba. why she's spe
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on $400 billion in medicare cuts. so there were some specifics in there. but was it a hardball opening? yeah, of course it was. the question is, what's the counteroffer, right? they're trying to not just provoke a no. they want the counteroffer. and the counteroffer is, what is it? there isn't one. >> it looks like right now it will probably come back now as $800 billion in new revenue, probably higher specific cuts. >> you forget one extra demand, of course, which is ban the debt ceiling piece. that's huge, right? that's, like, unilateral disarmament. we're going to offer you to unilaterally disarm. i like that one, too. because they were sensible. let's face it, the markets would welcome that, right? >> i think the market would welcome a more serious discussion. i was disappointed in the offer. i think you're probably right that this was a negotiating ploy, the beginning of a long perhaps 30-day negotiation, but when you have ceos of the largest companies in the country, the biggest in the world, suggesting that one, they might redomicile to a different country, that they're concerne
fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on
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that there will be a tremendous political consequence on things like cuts to medicare. lori: those cuts, as you know, nearly not enough. the second quarter gdp reading extremely disappointed. let's just call a spade a spade. we know hurricane sandy will shave another point or so off of growth. >> i think it is. that is why despite all of this, what i think of as process, it is a lot of posturing. it is a lot of politicking. people still remain convinced that these guys cannot be serious. they cannot be serious about pushing us off the fiscal cliff because it will have bad responses to republicans. the obama people will be able to say you gave away the ability to keep taxes down on 98% of americans. and for the president, the idea that he would allow the taxes to go up, again, on appetizing for him given that he said he would protect the american middle class. lori: he said the same thing over and over again. how do you see this sorting itself out? >> from purely a political viewpoint, i did not see why anyone would not make a deal. the fear i have is they just kick the can down the road thing and they creat
mainly from medicare, not to mention spending cuts. that figure, at least $1.2 trillion, according to politico. let's bring in news nation political panel. nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor micha michael smir connish. zacha zachary carabel. zachary, as we look at this and what we know so far and the talking points that go back and forth, we haven't got specifics, details from the right. we hear what the left wants. isn't the onus on john boehner and the right to say exactly what they want. >> i think it's on the onus of everybody to give a little in this. everyone talks about the simpson/bowles commission as a template for across the board reductions of long-term spending along with tax increases. that would obviously be ideal. right now we're talking about $2 trillion of spending decreases plus tax cuts, which even though running a trillion dollars of deficits a year, that's over a ten-year period. we're not talking a huge dent in the situation here. granted, any progress is probably better than no progress. but what we are talking about versus the t
on a plan that he would like to see emerge telling the paper that he'd agree to hire medicare premiums for the wealthy and increase in the medicare eligibility age and slowing costs of living increases for social security. let's dig in now with molly ball, national political reporter for "atlantic" and also lynn sweet, washington bureau chief of "chicago sun-times." ladies, good afternoon. >> hello to you. >> molly, senator dick durbin saying right here on tuesday on "morning joe" that he could see $400 billion, at least $400 billion in entitlement cuts. is that going to be as hard of a sell to the left as raising rates will be to the right? >> in a word, yes. there are a lot of democratic groups right now really pushing for no changes to entitlements and no cuts to entitlements, medicare, social security and also medicaid is a big concern for a lot of unions, a lot of progressive groups who are really trying to push the democrats to hold their ground on this. however, the administration has signaled they could be open to some kinds of changes, potentially the kind of stuff that mitch
because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea that republicans get more leverage if they give the president taxes now and hold out on, and hold the line on the debt ceiling like they did last summer successfully is something that is new and i think a different kind of two-part plan that republicans are starting to consider as maybe a backup plan that gives them the ability to say we lost the 2% tax hikes now, but we're going to fight later on the debt ceiling. >> let me bring in congressman james lang foford, fifth rankin republican in the house, congratulations, good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> let me ask you about the possibility of some sort of two-step solution and do you think if you wait it would give republicans leverage? >> i don't know if it's leverage. two-step solution is where we're headed. you can't do major tax reform and you don't want to do it behind closed doors. it will be a difficult issue, needs to be open door. the same with ent
mcconnell said. "higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, an increase in the medicare eligibility age, and a slowing of costs of living increases for programs like social security. and then republicans would agree to include more tax revenue in the deal but not from higher tax rates." now, let's just look at this for a second. we'll go to you first, nan. he wants medicare eligibility, he wants medicaid reforms, he wants spending cuts. then he'll talk revenues. that seems reasonable to me. is he going to do it? will the republicans come back with their own counter offer? >> well, certainly larry those are elements of a long-term approach to our enormous debt. it's a crushing debt. it hams our vulnerability across the world. i think we should look very seriously yet again and the speaker's mentioned it at the 2010 health law, affordable care act. that is a massive cost weight on the american people. it is a deeply unpopular issue. still it was relatively ignored during the election but it's still an active issue. and we have to provide assurance. americans have told us. they told us
. some of it from medicare, another 50 billion in spending and new spending on infrastructure and stimulus spending. that's something that republicans aren't going to want to go to. the two sides are far apart. here we are on december 1st, the clock is ticking. if they can't come to a deal over the course of december, delay all the christmas vacations and then the nation does go over the fival cliff and some people are thinking about the unthinkable now, craig. yes, it all boils down to that tax rate and the white house is playing hardball. they are insisting that the votes are there. they are, in some cases, playing to the democratic base that wanted to see this all along in past negotiations, craig. remember two years ago when we had the same debate about extending the president's tax cuts the president caved and no one expects this to happen this time and yet the votes aren't there in the house of representatives, especially among republicans to pass. there's some question whether john boehner would even put a bill like that on the floor. so, right now, a standoff. but that
if the gop wants entitlement reform, reform to social security and medicare and medicaid and many of those things were on the table in that failed grand bargaining of a year and a half ago, geithner, the president, all administration officials insist, it's the republicans who have going to have to show a little ankle and insist on what they want. make it clear what they want in terms of those reforms, if they want them to be on the table. the administration is not going to go first, they say they've already spelled out what they want in terms of raising taxesnd revenue. we don't apleer to be closer to a deal 29 days out. craig? >> republicans are going to have to show a little more ankle. i'll be using that. mike viquiera, from 1600 pennsylvania, thank you, good sir. so will a deal get done by the january 1st deadline? here's what one prominent republican senator had to say this morning. >> i think we're going off the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. you can limit deductions to $40,000, $50,000 a person which takes care of the middle class, upper-income
when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. let's see if we can get the same item at walmart for less? okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you
in this discussion. one is what would you do with respect to reducing the growth of spending in medicare? what specific steps are you willing to put on the table? >> well, let me give you something that -- it's very sensitive. but end of life is where 70% of the medicare dollars go, and yet we have a society where most people will not do a living will. i did a living will with my 90-year-old dad. it was very difficult. he died shortly after. but he told me, hey, do not keep me on life support, it costs a lot of money, plus i don't want it. if do you it, i'll come back and haunt you. but it was a good process. i see as a member of congress so many people who are estranged from their parents, they've moved away, had a falling out 20 years ago but they're the ones that say do whatever you can to keep mom and dad alive until i can get back to town. you know, if you have a living will, you're going to save lots of money. i think one of the potential discussion points is should we require living wills. that would save a tremendous amount of money in medicare. we can also revisit tort reform because
? are you willing to change the model for medicare over the long term in order to get there and these numbers, are you willing to do that in entitlement reforms in these negotiations? >> well, martha, we've always said that we will look at medicare reform and modernization. we actually took a first step towards doing that as part of the affordable care act. the congressional budget office has been very clear on that. martha: that didn't sound too promising. we are joined by john fune moments away we'll find out what republicans are willing to do. we'll be right back with "america's newsroom." -p martha: treasury secretary tim geithner is set to meet with party leaders in less than one hour from now. negotiations continue today on this looming fiscal cliff issue that is extremely important to get solved. republicans say they are willing to put new revenues on the table but only in exchange for real entitlement reform but democrats say that can't come until way down the road. several conservatives say the gop already lost the battle on the budget. charles krauthamer thou
inkraesing the medicare eligibility age, higher premiums for the wealthy and slowing cost of living increases. some seem open to means testing on medicare. >> more aggressive planes testing, higher co-pays for those who can afford it. donald trump may need medication but he certainly doesn't need the government to pay for it. debt ceiling talks in the summer of 2011 geithner again ruled that out. >> not as part of a process to reduce the deficit the others face. >> republicans don't like owning reform either. this was tom cole on sunday. >> only obama can fix entitlements. democrat versus democrat fight over entitlement which mirrors their fighting over taxes. a response to an argument that was starting before former adviser steve ratner and minnesota democratic congressman keith ellison with near glee. there is no real choice about that. we're clear social security is off the table. this is, to me, the much more interesting debate between tom and dan. >> you want republicans arguing. both sides are also battling for control of the debt ceiling which may represent the republicans' greatest po
't enough time left to do a comprehensive deal, including tax reform, fixing medicare. so he wants congress to raise tax rates for the wealthy right now and putting off the hard work to next year. they have 28 days left to make a deal before the country hits what's called the fiscal cliff. that's a combination of across the board tax increases for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospita
yesterday. $1.6 trillion in tax cuts. $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. $50 billion additional in stimulus spending. no real structural reform to entitlement programs. no spending cuts. instead, stimulus spending. obviously, the president knew that this would be an unacceptable first offer. so what is the end game here? where is the president's bottom line? >> listen, this is a negotiation. it isn't about the president's bottom line or my bottom line or yours. it's a negotiation. and the sad part is, that the administration, the president, has laid down an offer. there's several things in there we know the republicans like, and yet they refuse to lay down an offer. all they do is come out, and mitch mcconnell laughs, and boehner says it's terrible. there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the
in new taxes, $400 billion in savings from medicare and other entitlement programs, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and an additional $285 billion to fund depreciation and mortgage programs, unemployment insurance benefits, and payroll tax cuts. >> this extra spending, that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it's -- it was not a serious proposal. >> while his aides were on capitol hill offering up the opening bid, the president was making his case in pennsylvania campaign style. >> at the end of the day a clear majority of americans, democrats, republicans, independents, they agreed with a balanced approach. deficit reduction. >> after the president's remarks, i spoke with his main man on the fiscal cliff, treasury secretary tim geithner. >> let me ask you, the reaction to your going up on the hill and saying this is basically the white house position has been -- mitch mcconnell saying i think it was just demeaning for them to ask the treasury secretary to come up here and give a proposal like this and by this we have people saying it's a sham, it'
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, will house democrats provide votes to cut benefits to programs like medicare and medicaid? >> let me say that clearly, as gene sperling was sent today, the president is willing to look at what they're going to put forward in terms of revenues, but that has not been forthcoming, shall we say. with the president has been very clear is in terms of the impact on beneficiaries and beneficiaries are the people who are the recipients of medicaid, medicare, and social security -- we believe at most would agree that social security is not responsible for the deficit and should not be on at the table for discussion. with regard to the so-called entitlements -- i come from hartford, connecticut. this is a matter of insurance and it is a matter of actuarial assumptions. and i think when you look at things in terms of insurance and not entitlements, people were i come from say, wait a minute, i paid for this. that is my insurance that i paid for. now, there are actuarial assumptions you can make -- life span, various elements, wellness, exercise, preventative care. a number of things built into the a
was negotiating with medicare cuts right at the outset. and people say wait a minute, so here he comes in, he shows a little spine, a little steel, and this is what i said i was going to do, in the waive increases. they say wait, what about these medicare cuts. 9 only people that brought up medicare cuts were the republican was talked about obama was going to cut $716 billion so now we're in a situation where nobody wants his or her fingerprints on the medicare cuts. >> uh-huh. >> okay. the medicare cuts, i can assure you, and this is going to upset a lot of people, will appear in the negotiations. they will be-- paternity will be denied but they will miraculously appear. and i think we've got to outline what will go ahead with the deal. >> who is playing what hand, who is playing from strength here at this point. >> on this the president has the strength. no he request. first he won the election. second the polling shows that people are more likely to blame the republicans. third, if you look at the way the rules of the fiscal cliff are structured, the republicans lose big. the cuts, the seq
in stimulus spending, $400 billion in medicare entitlement savings. again, an opening offer, but, you know, the question republicans are asking is, like, what's really negotiable here? and do you think that joy-ann is right, these are just both sides playing to their base at this point when in truth they both know the contours of the deal? >> yeah, i think joy-ann is absolutely right that this is a negotiating position. it's not an attempt to draft what the final offer is going to look like. and there's a lot of bluster on both sides. you know, republicans are saying this is absurd. this is a joke. but it's hard for them to threaten to walk away from the table when democrats have the leverage, and they know it, and they are behaving like they know it. and that seems to be what is shocking the republicans so much because in the past, the president notably hasn't been this tough a negotiator. they've been able to say no, bring us something we like better, and he's done it instead of actually sort of calling their bluff and saying no, i want to see what your offer is. >> but this is the presi
relief, deferral, of automatic cuts for doctors and medicare. here are the spending cuts. unspecified savings from nonentitlement programs, next year. let me finish -- and, the promise of $400 billion in savings, from entitlement programs to be worked out next year with no guarantees. speaker boehner says, even if you get all of this, it is a net increase in spending, not a net cut. >> not true and let me explain why. those investments in infrastructure, extension of unemployment benefits are important and good things, and we propose how to pay for them and, in contrast to what you said, we propose $600 billion in reforms to mandatory programs, over ten years and are prepared to do a substantial portion of those up front in ways that are measurable to replace the much more damaging sequestering and when republicans say to us we want to see spending savings locked in up front we say we agree with you. you have to give us a sense of what we should do up front and the second stage and we are waiting to hear from them and if they need more time to figure out what they want to do, that is
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